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TWS & PPC Errors

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1 day 16 hours ago #3285 by MattiMelte
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hello together,
i have an issue with some instruments on my qtvlm. As you can see from the image attached the TWS and AWS are almost the same but, in reality they are not by far (as it is calculated and displayed  on my garmin Wind Bundle 52). To calculate the "true" data, the AIS - which is trasmitting data via UDP to the pc with qtvlm - has both GPS data and the log data (Garmin).
Can someone tell me why?
In addition, why is the PPC data completely dead?
I also attached a log of the NMEA data.
thank you in advance for the support
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Matteo

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1 day 6 hours ago - 1 day 5 hours ago #3286 by Synapse Navigation
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Hello,
Your STW (Speed Through Water) is wrong (or you are sailing a rocket). On the screenshot it is 73 Knots. There is something wrong that can impact the calculation of the TWS, TWA, and to compare to the polar (PPC ...). You should have a look at your sensor ...

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1 day 4 hours ago - 1 day 4 hours ago #3287 by maitai
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Hello,
First thing I see is that you have a really big issue with STW (Speed on Water), and actually you are receiving that:
$TIVHW,,T,,M,1273.90,N,2359.26,K*4F

1273.90 kts on water that is really fast :)

STW instruments shows only the last digits since such a huge number is not at all expected.

Concerning wind we receive
$TIMWV,293.61,R,4.81,M,A*21
which is AWD/AWS (4.81) since it is with "R"

and

$TIMWD,,T,,M,9.31,N,4.79,M*58
which is TWS (4.79 kts). Note that there is no TWD value, and therefore qtVlm is not able to calculate TWA

PPC does not show anything because 1) qtVlm was unable to read or calculate TWA and 2) that would give a too big number anyway.

So the conclusion is that your system sends both AWS and TWS but with the same value, and qtVlm just shows that. There is a big issue with VHW message, and it is also not normal to never receive TWD or TWA
What kind of navigation central is it ?
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1 day 4 hours ago #3288 by maitai
Replied by maitai on topic TWS & PPC Errors
To be more precise, it is not normal to receive TWS and not TWD or TWA. If TWS/TWA/TWD are all not received, qtVlm will calculate them based on AWA/AWS, but the case where only TWS is present is not covered because that would ignore the TWS received.

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1 day 3 hours ago #3289 by MattiMelte
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Hello and thanks for the analysis. The wind and log values are provided by a Garmin wind bundle 52 which apparently works well since the data on it dedicated displays make sense. Such data are transferred via nmea2000 to a em-trak AIS which is then sending them via high speed nmea0183 to a wifi antenna (yakker) which is in turn sending them via UDP to my pc with Qtvlm.
I don't know what is going wrong. I could understand if all data from the Garmin are somehow not received by qtvlm, but that part of them are wrong....

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1 day 3 hours ago #3290 by maitai
Replied by maitai on topic TWS & PPC Errors
I would suspect the conversion between NMEA2000 and NMEA0183
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